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# 123 Ask the Presidential Candidates This Question:

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If elected as President of the United States of America will you repeal the
“Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007.”

Well now, My post here and you reading it can classify us both as terrorists and a danger to the nation. That is what this new threat is all about. Any common sense thinking now puts one at risk and subject to jail and fines, along with ruined reputations even if not guilty of anything. How would the next elected president handle this situation! Anyway if I disappear you’ll know what happened.
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Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act by the U.S. Congress,
House Passes Thought Crime Prevention Bill
10-25-2007
www.roguegovernment.com
Lee Rogers
http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=4682
Clerical Amendment- The table of contents in section 1(b) of such Act is amended by inserting at the end of the items relating to title VIII the following:
It states in the first subsection that in general the efforts to defeat thought crime shall not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights and civil liberties of the United States citizens and lawful permanent residents. How does this protect constitutional rights if they use vague language such as in general that prefaces the statement? This means that the Department of Homeland Security does not have to abide by the Constitution in their attempts to prevent so called homegrown terrorism.
This bill is completely insane. It literally allows the government to define any and all crimes including thought crime as violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism. Obviously, this legislation is unconstitutional on a number of levels and it is clear that all 404 representatives who voted in favor of this bill are traitors and should be removed from office immediately. The treason spans both political parties and it shows us all that there is no difference between them. The bill will go on to the Senate and will likely be passed and signed into the law by George W. Bush. Considering that draconian legislation like the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act have already been passed, there seems little question that this one will get passed as well. This is more proof that our country has been completely sold out by a group of traitors at all levels of government. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act 2007
By Abdus Sattar Ghazali
The U.S. House of Representatives has quietly passed the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism (read Thought Crime) Prevention Act of 2007. The bill, passed on October 23 by a landslide vote of 404 to 6, has been referred to the Senate where it awaits scrutiny from the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. Interestingly, of the fifteen sponsors for this bill, eleven of them are Democrats.
The bill’s language hides its true intent
The bill’s vague and open-ended language hides its true intent as to what “violent radicalization” and “homegrown terrorism” are? It will be whatever the administration says they are. Violent radicalization is defined as “adopting or promoting an extremist belief system (to facilitate) ideologically based violence to advance political, religious or social change.”
Homegrown terrorism is used to mean “the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily with the United States or any (US) possession to intimidate or coerce the (US) government, the civilian population….or any segment thereof (to further) political or social objectives.”
Along with other repressive laws enacted after 9/11, the new law may be used against any individual or group with unpopular views – those that differ from established state policies. Prosecutors henceforth will be able to target believers in Islam, anti-war protesters, web editors, internet bloggers and radio and TV show hosts and commentators with views the bill calls “terrorist-related propaganda.”
Unfortunately this bill is likely to pass and be signed into law as it purports to be part of the response to 9/11 and the global war on terror. If this legislation becomes law, which is virtually certain, any dissenting anti-government action or opinion may henceforth be called “violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism” with stiff penalties for anyone convicted.
This bill now joins the ranks of other repressive post-9/11 laws like Patriot I and II, Military Commissions, Protect America Acts and Presidential Executive Orders pursuant to which the government has engaged in massive surveillance of its own citizens, as well as detentions, extraordinary renditions and torture.
Surprisingly, there is a criminal silence in the mainstream media about the bill.

http://www.amperspective.com/html/the_violent_radacaliztion.html
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Chilling effect on both free speech and thought
The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act will have a substantial chilling effect on both free speech and free thought. At base, Jane Harman’s proposal seems to be a direct attack on free speech. No where is this more clear than in the third introductory paragraph (the “where as” section) that provides the context for the action desired. Specifically, this legislation aims at the unregulated nature of the Internet:
“The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.”
One of the most useful tools for political campaigns today is the use of the internet. Certainly we can see how this has been used over the last few months as Congressmen Paul, as well as other candidates, has used the internet to spread their messages and appeal to new voters.
With this piece of legislation in congress, people will no longer be able to use the internet in a peaceful manner. All activity will certainly be logged, and every letter typed will be scrutinized by the state.
On November 6, CSPAN aired a hearing of the Homeland Security Subcommittee’s “Terrorism and the Internet” which stated purpose was to attempt to identify and focus on the use of the internet by “home grown terrorist recruiters.” The hearing was chaired by California democrat Jane Harman, sponsor of the infamous “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007” and ranking Republican, Rep. Dave Reichert.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/11/369129.shtml
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Bizarre Bill Introduced in Congress: The Violent Radicalization Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007
Civil liberties activists have criticized the bill, some comparing the Commission it would establish to the McCarthy Commission that investigated Americans for possible associations with Communist groups, casting suspicion on law-abiding citizens and ruining their reputations. The Commission would be empowered to “hold hearings and sit and act at such times and places, take such testimony, receive such evidence, and administer such oaths as the Commission considers advisable to carry out its duties.”Odette Wilkens, the executive director of the Equal Justice Alliance, a constitutional watchdog group, compared the legislation to the McCarthy Commission and to the FBI’s Counter Intelligence Program (COINTELPRO), which infiltrated, undermined and spied on civil rights and antiwar groups during the 1950s and 60s.”The commission would have very broad powers. It could investigate anyone. It would create a public perception that whoever is being investigated by the Commission must be involved in subversive or illegal activities. It would give the appearance that whoever they are investigating is potentially a traitor or disloyal or a terrorist, even if all they were doing was advocating lawful views,” Wilkens said.
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/index.cfm/page/article/id/8888
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1 comment to # 123 Ask the Presidential Candidates This Question:

  • Jeep

    I hope you haven’t been swiped up off the face of the earth and put in some cave or hole to keep you quiet!

    (Talker) Naw Jeep, not yet, although there may be a few that would like to do so.
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    This is a very interesting look at life. Wondering how long there has been data on this. Any links to the “sightings” of UFO’s nationwide or could this NOT be from that type of other sould? Mean, if we have intelligence here (and I know we are the one’s calling ourselves intelligent” what about the intelligence from other planets and the mysterious disappearances of people, some of whom return and say they were kidnapped and suddenly are changed people?

    Apr 26, 8:55 AM — — View post “# 33 Ever Heard About Walk-ins!”

    (Talker) Two totally different situations. For now will stick with “walkins”, and even this, at a very basic level. The exchange of souls takes place only under very specific conditions. Not everyone that is declared “dead” and seemingly returns to life, is a “walkin”, but at that moment is when an event like this “soul exchange” could happen. The process serves a purpose at and from astral levels difficult to comprehend, from our physical perspective of it. Are a few stories from the bible, that I highly suspect, involve “walkins”. Still doing research with the subject matter.
    Regards the aliens, this calls for some one dedicated and very advanced in remote viewing to follow up on this matter. If I make beyond 150 years of maturity, may give it a crack.( stop laughing now)
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    Why then is is so difficult for some to recall any dreams at all? Why can’t I call up a spirit to visit me and speak with me? Why is it that the communication is at the spirit world’s pleasing? Is there a possibility that we can call them up and have the needed chats or clarity or comfort talks?

    Apr 26, 8:59 AM — View post “# 32 What! Angels Talking To Me!”

    (Talker) Like so many areas of life, recalling dreams takes a bit of a learning curve, and a willingness to do so. Also lack of certain nutrients and or amino acids can make it appear no dreams take place. But research indicates everyone dreams, but wont necessarily be able to recall them. Will one day do a post on it. Common misconceptions of what happens after one passes, falls into a number of categories. We die and that’s it, oblivion, or that a soul is just waiting for the phone to ring. Not so in either situation. Life like action in the spirit world commences immediately after ones last physical breath. The astral world has levels (or floors) of existence, that would boggle our human mind kind of thinking. Closest I can come to a simile, is preschool, kindergarten, grammar school, high school, college, post doctoral, with each step having the equivalent of many physical lifetimes. Each step upwards makes it more difficult for a soul to lower its vibratory rate to answer any “call” to communicate with us at our physical vibratory rate. There are learning, healing, and teaching modalities that the soul gets into that some what parallel life like busy busy actions. Same as when some one has to tap your shoulder to get your attention, because your so intently focused on what your doing. I do believe there is a point, some what like “our” vacation times, that ones call to a soul for a chat can happen. Still researching this out. Will post more as I come into it. Everything said here would actually takes a book to thoroughly cover the topics, the difficult part is the verification process. More as info come in.

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